Which Auchenipterids are being kept by PC members?

Post by **Marc van Arc** » 06 Oct 2007, 10:42

Jools wrote:Indeed, I was getting bombarded with error emails!

Well, at least that shows that the post is being read

(but sorry for the extra work....)

Jools wrote: I think the T. quadrifilis one is still an issue though, that should be reduce to italics rather than the clog tag, no?

I've changed T. wallacei from clog into bold print. T. quadrifilis shows a picture; no problem.
This is an oldie really: T.w is the most common species and was added to the Cat-eLog with the intention to get the pictures from T.q, which is a rare species and therefore hardly likely to show up on the exporters lists.

Bas Pels · Post by **Bas Pels** » 06 Oct 2007, 13:26

Marc van Arc wrote: Afaik, only Brasilian is based on Portugese; all other languages are based on Spanish. Besides these were Peruvian lists, so there was no need to check a Portugese dictionary.

This is true, but, on the other hand, in parts near the border with Brasil in Uruguay, the only SA contry I know a bit about, people speak some mixture between Spanish and Portugese

Perhaps this could happen in other parts of SA as well, especially if native tribes sell fishes to Brasil and other buyers.

So perhaps,where in doubt, Portugese could be helpfull still

daniel60 · Post by **daniel60** » 10 Oct 2007, 21:38

A big, big smile from Sweden.

Post by **Marc van Arc** » 10 Oct 2007, 22:29

My god, what a bunch of ugly grins

.
Actually the first time I noticed that their lower jaws are pointed to such extent. Very nice picture and a great asset to your Auchenipterid clan.
Where did they come from and under which name?

daniel60 · Post by **daniel60** » 10 Oct 2007, 23:37

Marc van Arc wrote:My god, what a bunch of ugly grins .
Actually the first time I noticed that their lower jaws are pointed to such extent. Very nice picture and a great asset to your Auchenipterid clan.
Where did they come from and under which name?

They're from Colombia. Don't know under which name they were sold, but don't all Colombian exporters call them A. batrachus?
They seem to be a healthy trio - well fed and already eating pieces of fish (not just live ones, thank God). They're rather small, 11 cm SL. That's why I could afford three.
Here's another pic:

C-Magnier · Post by **C-Magnier** » 11 Oct 2007, 12:13

Hi Daniel,

daniel60 wrote:A big, big smile from Sweden.

I enjooOooy it!!!

How can you take theses pictures???

A+

--
Cathy,

daniel60 · Post by **daniel60** » 11 Oct 2007, 12:47

Thanks!
They had just come out of the box after a 9 hour long busride across Sweden and were probably a little bit shocked.
Today I won't be able to take a picture like that.
But gulper cats seem to be quite social and not as nocturnal as other woodcats, so I will have the camera ready.

Post by **Marc van Arc** » 11 Oct 2007, 18:00

On a recent list from the Peruvian exporter Bocon leguia is named Microglanis sp.. That doesn't bother me much.
The fact that there are 100 in one box does, however. Can't imagine them to be any Ageneiosus species..... Bummer.

Post by **Marc van Arc** » 11 Oct 2007, 23:04

While googling for more information on Novias I ran into yet another Peruvian list, which said that Bocon leguia is Ageneiosus marmoratus

The whole thing is getting more and more confusing, for a lot of common names are inproperly used. I saw for instance a picture with the common name of (Novia madera).
Luckily I found confirmation that Novia tatia is indeed Tatia aulopygia.
Or wasn't I lucky after all?
Have a look at the last post of this PC thread.

http://www.planetcatfish.com/forum/view ... hp?p=23541

The last thing I need is more T. intermedia.....
BTW: I swear I didn't see this thread until half an hour ago, yet it would have saved me some time.
I'm sure HH didn't want to spoil my fun

grokefish · Post by **grokefish** » 13 Oct 2007, 12:38

Common names.
Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr......

racoll · Post by **racoll** » 13 Oct 2007, 16:27

Perhaps the local names could be added to the cat-elog when we have a good idea of what they are?

Good detective work by the way Marc

Post by **Marc van Arc** » 13 Oct 2007, 21:29

Thanks Rupert, and I'm happy to tell you that I've been given a promotion (by myself

) for finding the site of the exporter in question.
Not only do they have an enormous amount of very nice fishes, but they also add pictures to common names!! Not that they are all correct - Bocon/Microglanis sp. sits under Pimelodidae but is an Ageneiosid!! - , but I've become a lot wiser the last few hours.
Have a look at http://www.peru-aquarium.com and choose Fish gallery from the menu bar on the left. Fill in genus, species and pick one of the common names that show up. Enjoy

CFC · Post by **CFC** » 14 Oct 2007, 14:33

damn there are some nice cats on there, theres loads i want

Post by **Marc van Arc** » 14 Oct 2007, 15:53

CFC wrote:damn there are some nice cats on there, theres loads i want

Such as??

CFC · Post by **CFC** » 15 Oct 2007, 15:48

where do i start?

The fish listed as Novia bull is a pretty amazing looking little beast as are the other Ageineosids listed as Bocon species

I've always wanted to give some the Trichomycteridae family a go and they have a great selection, and what better use for all the hideous parrot fish than to feed them to parasitic cats

Theyve got some great looking pims such as the one listed as "toa" (never heard of nor seen one before) and the lince cat which i've never seen out side of books and web pages

and theres all the various knife fishes, i desperately want another "flash zebra" carapo to replace the one i had which went for a walk one night

and i dont even want to think about all those stingrays.

Post by **Marc van Arc** » 15 Oct 2007, 21:21

Yes, I recognize your problem. Initially I had made a large list, but I really need to cut back on species

. I have a problem you don't have: limited space.
Besides, the LFS owner has to like it as well and as long as I don't know how many specimen are shipped in one box there's little I can say. If the Bocons for instance are shipped per 20, I could choose 1/4 box and buy them all myself. If they go by 80 it's a definite no go. I can't expect him to keep 15 specimen that he's very unlikely to sell around here.
The Novia bull has been on my wish list for about 30 years. So if it's available I will find a way to get it over here.

Post by **Marc van Arc** » 15 Oct 2007, 22:16

Cathy, what happened to your pictures on page 11??

C-Magnier · Post by **C-Magnier** » 16 Oct 2007, 08:17

Hi,

I don't know...

Investigations this morning ...

--
Cathy

A bbcode probleme. [img] became [img::] ??
I don't know why...

Lutt · Post by **Lutt** » 16 Oct 2007, 19:03

My short list:

2 Tatia Intermedia
3 Asterophysus batrachus

But i want more species

Post by **Marc van Arc** » 16 Oct 2007, 22:35

C-Magnier wrote:I don't know.

Good, they're back again. Thanks to whoever made that happen. The thread is much nicer with pictures.

Post by **Marc van Arc** » 16 Oct 2007, 22:39

Lutt wrote:My short list:
2 Tatia Intermedia
3 Asterophysus batrachus
But i want more species

Short, but nice. There shouldn't be too much trouble in getting more species in Sweden

daniel60 · Post by **daniel60** » 17 Oct 2007, 10:45

Asterophysus is - by far - the least shy woodcat I've come across.
They're like hungry and happy pitbull puppies.
I'm not used to get photo ops all the time!

Post by **Marc van Arc** » 17 Oct 2007, 14:58

Perhaps you and Lutt could expand a little on their behaviour, especially as you both have 3 specimen.
I don't know how long Lutt has had them, but I know Daniel's have just arrived, so don't hurry.
What I knew was that they could gulp away large preys and they were unaffordable. What I've learnt now is that they are visible during the day and behave like puppies.
Let's have some more valuable information.

CFC · Post by **CFC** » 17 Oct 2007, 15:44

The diurnal behaviour must be something that only happens in groups, i have a single Asterophysus and it spends the days hiding inside a hollow log ornament, looks like i'll have to find a couple more, and a crash helmet to protect my head from the beatings i will recieve from the mrs when i tell her.

grokefish · Post by **grokefish** » 17 Oct 2007, 17:25

Beatings yes, beatings.

Post by **Marc van Arc** » 17 Oct 2007, 19:43

Update on the Names list.

Pollera cat is a very dark Trachelyopterus species, possibly .

Parauchenipterus Max Cat is no Auchenipterid, but a Rhamdia species (family Heptapteridae).

Novia tatia is not only used for , but also for

Novia sissors has nothing to do with Novia tijera. This name is used for

Novia common is not only used for , but also for . Both species are indeed common.

Novia bull is the same fish as Novia torito

Novia brown is used for

Mod edit: Fix clog-tag for T. sp(1). --Mats

Lutt · Post by **Lutt** » 17 Oct 2007, 21:26

Nice pic daniel60.

Marc van Arc: daniel60 has had them longer then me, but i agree with daniel60 that they don't are shy at all.

racoll · Post by **racoll** » 17 Oct 2007, 21:54

CFC, any luck with that cheap Asterophysus?

Post by **Marc van Arc** » 17 Oct 2007, 22:07

So you both don't have them very long. Nevertheless, it's good to get some first hand information. So whenever you have something to tell and/or show, don't hesitate to share it with us.
I for instance would like to know how they behave towards eachother and if you have given them any company or not. What do you feed them? Etcetera.

daniel60 · Post by **daniel60** » 17 Oct 2007, 22:46

Marc van Arc wrote:I for instance would like to know how they behave towards eachother and if you have given them any company or not. What do you feed them? Etcetera.

They seem to be very social - there's three hideouts in their tank but they share the same one (T. taeniatus is the only other woodcat I've seen behaving this way). At night they are often seen prowling together. Of course this can change when they mature.
So far they have eaten pieces of fish and mussels. Soon I will be able to hand feed them, I guess.