Are these Farlowella mariaelenae?

petesfish · Post by **petesfish** » 26 Sep 2007, 03:54

I got these two fish from two different sources. This one was mixed in with Farlowella vittata.

This one I just picked up at a club auction.

Both appear to have three rows of belly scutes. Both ~6" long. What other info/photos do I need to make proper ID?

Pete

Norman · Post by **Norman** » 26 Sep 2007, 08:22

Hi Pete,

Typically for F.mariaelenae is the short snout-mouth length compared with the head length and a males snout wich is totally covered with small breeding odontodes.
A photo of the caudal fin can also give a hint.

best regards
Norman

petesfish · Post by **petesfish** » 28 Sep 2007, 03:50

This shows whole body of first fish including caudal.

I think tail might have had longer tips at one point.

Pete

Norman · Post by **Norman** » 01 Oct 2007, 10:26

Hi Pete,

The coloration of the caudal fin of the specimen on your photo is similar to the description of RETZER & PAGE for F.mariaelenae.

best regards
Norman

petesfish · Post by **petesfish** » 03 Oct 2007, 03:40

Thanks very much Norman

Is this the reference you used?

Systematics of the stick catfishes, Farlowella Eigenmann & Eigenmann (Pisces, Loricariidae)
ME Retzer, LM Page - Proc. Acad. Nat. Sci. Phila, 1996

Pete

Post by **Shane** » 08 Oct 2007, 12:16

Yes, these are F. mariaelenae. Looking at the first posting, I would hazard to say that the fish in the top photo is female and the lower a male.
-Shane

Are these Farlowella mariaelenae?

Are these Farlowella mariaelenae?

Tail image

Farlowella reference