Pl*co help please!

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Pl*co help please!

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i have adored pl*cos since i was a little girl, and i would love to get one! i don't really know alot about them, but i am in the process of researching them. the only problem is, that i only have a 10 gallon tank :( i was thinking that before the new year, i would like to upgrade to a 15 gallon tank.

can anyone please tell me a good species that will do ok in this size of tank? (10 - 15 gallons please. maybe a 20 gallon if i get lucky!)

his/her tankmates will be corydora, snails, and shrimp :) (see siggy) thank you!
Love my fish!
in seperate mini-tanks:
2 male betta (Eric and Joey)

in roomy 10 gal tank:
3 panda corydora
2 Corydoras leucomelas
2 albino corydora
3 amano shrimp
a bunch of snails

<3

wishlist: my own awesome Pl*co! and a bigger tank!
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Post by fishlvr »

Try bulldog/rubbernose pl*cos. They're fairly readily sold at petsmart. They aren't expensive either. I'm going to try to breed them.

This is the species I see the most:


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Post by Matien »

Hello,

Small concern about bulldog plecos : these fishes need fast moving water (which is not the case of the rest of your population).
May be you could have a look to the panaque maccus : this is a fish which support easily slow water, is interesting to look at, even if it become more active during night time.
It is a wood eater, so you need to have roots available in the tank



Good Luck
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Post by Seedy »

Perhaps an might work in this situation?
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Post by racoll »

Small concern about bulldog pl*cos : these fishes need fast moving water (which is not the case of the rest of your population).


I would agree with this.
May be you could have a look to the panaque maccus
However I would disagree here. I think a is not really suitable for a 10g, as they produce vast amounts of crap, and you really need a hefty external power filter to deal with the mess they produce. I would say a 30g with a filter of at least 500lph would be a minimum for a dwarf Panaque.

I use a 2300lph filter on a 50g tank, which is the only way have have found to keep a tank clean for three .

As i recommended in your other thread, or would be the best bet.

Remember need warm water (27C+), so that probably won't work with your Corydoras sp.

are great, but they need to have been in the shop for at least a month before you buy them. They need to be in tip top health and fed lots of veg.

They can die off rapidly if not in good health.


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Post by Matien »

You are right Racoll, I missed the volume conversion. Even a 20gUS (about 70 l) will be to small for the panaque maccus.

Cory Love, in the volume of your tank, I would not even recommand one comon ancistrus (they will reach or exceed 4 inches) except if the height of the tank is small (to keep a large surface on floor).

There are some species which may not exceed 3 inches, I think you should look closely to these ones, but they usally more difficult to find.

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Post by Cory_love »

thanks everyone for your replies and help! i will reasearch the species you reccomended and when i get my larger tank, i think i'll get one!

if you guys have any more advice, please share! thank you :)
Love my fish!
in seperate mini-tanks:
2 male betta (Eric and Joey)

in roomy 10 gal tank:
3 panda corydora
2 Corydoras leucomelas
2 albino corydora
3 amano shrimp
a bunch of snails

<3

wishlist: my own awesome Pl*co! and a bigger tank!
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Post by Mustang »

You could have a look at LDA025, Pitbull pleco.
This is a really small species.
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I am sitting here typing this with a tank of Ancistrus claro beside me, a great "little" ancistrus and not impossible to find.
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Post by racoll »

You could have a look at LDA025, Pitbull pl*co.
This is a really small species.
Good call Mustang. I should have recommended these; I have a group of them.

are perfect. Small, very hardy, easy to feed, tolerant of a wide range of temperatures, and good algae eaters.

Thoroughly recommended.
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Birger wrote:I am sitting here typing this with a tank of Ancistrus claro beside me, a great "little" ancistrus and not impossible to find.
Where did you get them? I looked them up. They seem pretty cool
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Post by Birger »

I got mine from a LFS that I frequent but that won't help you, bit too far of a drive, ask around in your local shops or look for someone closer online that has them or if you have a local aquarium club check them out they may be able to point you in the right direction.

good luck
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