Hello Everyone!
Hello Everyone!
Hi! I just joined the sight. I've got two lovely Plecos that I *believe* are an L137 and an L200.
I think I've decided to start a rare pleco collection
I've got four tanks; 2 30 gallon; 1 five gallon *for my blue crayfish*; and one as yet to be set up 175 gallon one!
I'm hoping to find a lot of good resources about my new favorite fish here!
I think I've decided to start a rare pleco collection
I've got four tanks; 2 30 gallon; 1 five gallon *for my blue crayfish*; and one as yet to be set up 175 gallon one!
I'm hoping to find a lot of good resources about my new favorite fish here!
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- MatsP
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Sure, there's no general rule AGAINST posting photos. Of course, you may want to consider the NUMBER of pictures you post, as if everyone starts posting LOTS of pictures, it can be a bit overwhelming.
It is perhaps also better to have a separate thread for your pictures, rather than posting them in the "I've just arrived here" thread.
Note that PlanetCatfish itself isn't able to host your pictures, so you need your pictures on a different website, such as photobucket.com, imageshack.com or such.
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It is perhaps also better to have a separate thread for your pictures, rather than posting them in the "I've just arrived here" thread.
Note that PlanetCatfish itself isn't able to host your pictures, so you need your pictures on a different website, such as photobucket.com, imageshack.com or such.
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Just a qustion on posting pics!
Hi Mats, I would also like to post some pics of my plecs! Is there an easy way of doing so, as I'm not much of an wiz on these matters
- MatsP
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The first thing you have to do is to find a website (as mentioned above) that you can put your pictures on. Those above give you a "link" that points to your photo. Put that link here, with [img] and [/img] around it, and it should show up.
For example [img]http://www.somesite.com/pictures/mypict ... 771218.jpg[/img]
[Note: the [img] and [/img] don't usually show in the post, but I've turned off "bbcode" here so that you can see exactly what it looks like]
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For example [img]http://www.somesite.com/pictures/mypict ... 771218.jpg[/img]
[Note: the [img] and [/img] don't usually show in the post, but I've turned off "bbcode" here so that you can see exactly what it looks like]
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- MatsP
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Even worse, L137 is Cochliodon cochliodon according to Wels Atlas 2 (they still regard the genus Cochliodon as valid). But, after seeing several lookalikes of the above fish in this book, I'm not so sure any more of my previous statementMatsP wrote:I think Selyna meant that this was "L137", which is indeed a Hypostomus in the cochliodon group.
If so, could it be added to the common names?MatsP wrote: Green phantom is often used in conjunction with L200
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- MatsP
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- MatsP
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- Spotted: 187
- Location 1: North of Cambridge
- Location 2: England.
Should do, and yes, it's not visible yet, since Jools hasn't "approved" my change - I expect that to happen tomorrow, but it's been known that Jools spends the day doing other things than approving my changes...
As to your other comment, the Hypostomus cochliodon group, at least in my eyes, is not the easiest to identify. There are several described fish that look almost identical (I haven't been studying the scientific papers on them, so I don't know if there are any good keys to go by there), and there are several L-numbers that could possible be variaitons or geographical extensions to currently described species. In short, I'm not very good at identifying these...
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As to your other comment, the Hypostomus cochliodon group, at least in my eyes, is not the easiest to identify. There are several described fish that look almost identical (I haven't been studying the scientific papers on them, so I don't know if there are any good keys to go by there), and there are several L-numbers that could possible be variaitons or geographical extensions to currently described species. In short, I'm not very good at identifying these...
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- MatsP
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- Spotted: 187
- Location 1: North of Cambridge
- Location 2: England.
Common names are easier to learn than sicentific names, but on the other hand, scientific names have several advantages:
1. They are the same all over the world. No matter if you are in the US, England, China or Australia, the name for a Hypancistrus zebra is the same - and it means the same species of fish in all places too!!
2. There is only ONE (valid) scientific name for a particular species. [Now, let's not get into a discussion about who decides which ones are valid and which aren't, please ]. Older names are kept on record as "synonyms", so if you find your fish in an older book, using an old name, it can still be "traced" to the new name now. [Names change because of further research - for example what was previously considered two different species will become one species, and the oldest name should then be used, with the "newer" one being a synonym. Or a genus (small group of fish with similar traits) may either split into multiple new genera, or be merged with another genera (e.g. the genus Cochliodon is, at least by some, considered a synonym with Hypostomus, so your L137 belongs, if we follow this, to the genus Hypostomus, whilst older literature will call it Cochliodon).
Sorry, that became quite long and complex - feel free to accept the shorter version:
Scientific names are more precise and internationally accepted. Common names are often used for more than one species of fish, and sometimes not the same in different parts of the world. '
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1. They are the same all over the world. No matter if you are in the US, England, China or Australia, the name for a Hypancistrus zebra is the same - and it means the same species of fish in all places too!!
2. There is only ONE (valid) scientific name for a particular species. [Now, let's not get into a discussion about who decides which ones are valid and which aren't, please ]. Older names are kept on record as "synonyms", so if you find your fish in an older book, using an old name, it can still be "traced" to the new name now. [Names change because of further research - for example what was previously considered two different species will become one species, and the oldest name should then be used, with the "newer" one being a synonym. Or a genus (small group of fish with similar traits) may either split into multiple new genera, or be merged with another genera (e.g. the genus Cochliodon is, at least by some, considered a synonym with Hypostomus, so your L137 belongs, if we follow this, to the genus Hypostomus, whilst older literature will call it Cochliodon).
Sorry, that became quite long and complex - feel free to accept the shorter version:
Scientific names are more precise and internationally accepted. Common names are often used for more than one species of fish, and sometimes not the same in different parts of the world. '
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Mats
Thank you Mats; I was wondering about the Hypostomus/ Cochilodon names; now I understand it. And I can clearly see how much easier it is to refer to them by scientific names.
I get the L 137 on accident and spend a lot time trying to figure out what it was. Most people were telling me it was a blue eyed Red Bruno, not to mention several other names which I've found aren't correct, or at least not precise.
I imagine with some time here, I'll be able to use *and even understand!* the scientific names.
All this was meant to say thanks:D
I get the L 137 on accident and spend a lot time trying to figure out what it was. Most people were telling me it was a blue eyed Red Bruno, not to mention several other names which I've found aren't correct, or at least not precise.
I imagine with some time here, I'll be able to use *and even understand!* the scientific names.
All this was meant to say thanks:D
- MatsP
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- Location 2: England.
It takes a while to understand the "binominal nomenclature" (which is the fancy way of saying "Scientific names"). The "binominal" means that ALL species described has a name made up of two parts (genus and species name) that describe exactly which species it is, and there's NEVER two binominals that are the same within all mammals, fishes, plants, bacteria or insects.
In fact, all genus names are unique as such, but specific names are not, e.g. there are several fish called "pictus", but combined with the unique genus "pimelodus", it can only mean one living thing,
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Mats
In fact, all genus names are unique as such, but specific names are not, e.g. there are several fish called "pictus", but combined with the unique genus "pimelodus", it can only mean one living thing,
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Mats