Panaque albomaculatus or not?

Daragh · Post by **Daragh** » 06 Jun 2007, 23:31

Two photos of a recent purchase, sold as Panaque albomaculatus, but I am not so sure. Any other suggestions. The body is about 3 inches excluding the tail whic is as long again.

Thanx in advance

Daragh

Digital · Post by **Digital** » 06 Jun 2007, 23:45

Young Acanthicus adonis.

Lornek8 · Post by **Lornek8** » 07 Jun 2007, 01:30

Digital wrote:Young Acanthicus adonis.

Agreed.

racoll · Post by **racoll** » 07 Jun 2007, 09:28

Could well be , but is from the Tocatins, Eastern Brazil.

If the above fish was confused with , then there is a possibility it came from Peru, which would make it Acanthicus sp. aff. adonis.

Care for both types would be the same though. If you look at the cat-elog sheet you will see that it can grow to a metre long.

Nice fish, but maybe one to get shot of while you still have the chance.

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MatsP · Post by **MatsP** » 07 Jun 2007, 11:06

racoll wrote:Could well be
Acanthicus adonis
, but
Acanthicus adonis
is from the Tocatins, Eastern Brazil.

If the above fish was confused with
Panaque albomaculatus
, then there is a possibility it came from Peru, which would make it Acanthicus sp. aff. adonis.

That of course assumes that the capture location was taken into account when "identifying" the species, rather than someone just looking at pictures.

Care for both types would be the same though. If you look at the cat-elog sheet you will see that it can grow to a metre long.

Nice fish, but maybe one to get shot of while you still have the chance.

Yes, it's not going to stay small for very long...

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Mats

Daragh · Post by **Daragh** » 08 Jun 2007, 01:28

I was afraid this is the ID that would come up, to be honest I thought it was an Adonis, just hoped it wasn't because of the size they grow to. I guess it is time for a trip back to the LFS with this little cute guy.

Unless you think he would be happy in a 450 litre tank with a giraffe cat that is about 12" at the moment ???

Thanx for all the replies

Daragh

racoll · Post by **racoll** » 08 Jun 2007, 09:06

Unless you think he would be happy in a 450 litre tank with a giraffe cat that is about 12" at the moment ???

I should think he'll be fine in that tank in the short term, but long-term he will need a bigger tank.

The problem that it is much more difficult to get rid of big fish when they are big.

Post by **Barbie** » 08 Jun 2007, 10:50

Especially big ones that are THAT ornery with their tank mates. They can really be hateful little buggers at 8" and less!

Barbie

racoll · Post by **racoll** » 08 Jun 2007, 11:20

While I agree that not everyone who works in a fish store should have a PhD in fish taxonomy, I do think they should take a little more time in getting at least the correct genus, as it can quite significant consequences for both fish and owner.

These must be some of the largest plecs around......

Badenser · Post by **Badenser** » 08 Jun 2007, 12:25

Hi,

because it is very easy to identify Acanthicus:

There is no adipose fin.

MatsP · Post by **MatsP** » 08 Jun 2007, 12:30

Badenser wrote:Hi,

because it is very easy to identify Acanthicus:

There is no adipose fin.

Which isn't UNIQUE to Acanthicus, but it's the only LARGER Loricariidae that doesn't have one Otocinclus is another that doesn't have an adipose fin. And there should be no mistaking an Otocinclus with a large pleco type fish (once they are big enough to sell at least)

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Mats

diburning · Post by **diburning** » 10 Jun 2007, 18:57

wow PRETTY!!