Ancistrus sp. (3)

Nieky · Post by **Nieky** » 03 Jan 2007, 16:19

Perhaps a stupid question, but what does the 3 stand for in Ancistrus sp. (3)? I know what sp. means, but I can't figure the 3 out...

Kostas · Post by **Kostas** » 04 Jan 2007, 08:13

Ancistrus sp.(number) stands for Ancistrus sp. that dont have neither an L-number nor a scientific name.The 3 in Ancistrus sp.(3) is just the order at which it was put on the catelog and nothing else.Its just so we can tell it apart from the other Ancistrus sp. that dont have a scientific name or an L-number too.

racoll · Post by **racoll** » 04 Jan 2007, 08:34

Ancistrus sp.(number) stands for Ancistrus sp. that dont have neither an L-number nor a scientific name.

Or a river. Some fish are labelled by their capture location if this is known. For example....

Kostas · Post by **Kostas** » 04 Jan 2007, 09:02

racol wrote:Or a river

I think i forgot that

Nieky · Post by **Nieky** » 04 Jan 2007, 09:54

Thanks guys, I keep larning everyday

butterfly · Post by **butterfly** » 05 Jan 2007, 01:00

So there are Ancistrus sp (1) and Ancistrus sp (2) also ?
Carol

Dave Rinaldo · Post by **Dave Rinaldo** » 05 Jan 2007, 02:09

butterfly wrote:So there are Ancistrus sp (1) and Ancistrus sp (2) also ?
Carol

Yes. And more.

They are designations used (only) here at PC for species
of unknown ID.

Ancistrus spp.

From the second post in this thread.........

Kostas wrote:Ancistrus sp.(number) stands for Ancistrus sp. that dont have neither an L-number nor a scientific name.The 3 in Ancistrus sp.(3) is just the order at which it was put on the catelog and nothing else.Its just so we can tell it apart from the other Ancistrus sp. that dont have a scientific name or an L-number too.

butterfly · Post by **butterfly** » 05 Jan 2007, 02:57

Cool! Thank You.
Carol

Nieky · Post by **Nieky** » 05 Jan 2007, 08:25

If you look in the Cat-elog, you'll see that ie. sp(4) is the albino kind, sp(5) the longfin kind, which would make sp(6) the longfin-albino kind I guess...correct me if I'm wrong here.

Kostas · Post by **Kostas** » 05 Jan 2007, 10:52

No,its not exactly like that...
The albino variety of a certain sp. remains the same sp. as the normal coloured form and so it is included in with the normal coloured form.The same goes for the longfin Ancistrus too.They are just selectively bred to have long fins but they remain the same sp. as the normal form.If you check Ancistrus sp.(3) in the catelog you will see that there are also photos of its albino form and of its long fin form.Ancistrus sp.(number) are not variants of the same sp. but rather different species.We just dont know pretty much anything about their origin and they dont have a scientific name or an L-number.

MatsP · Post by **MatsP** » 05 Jan 2007, 17:34

Exactly like Kostas says: The number doesn't have any meaning whatsoever. There used to be a long-fin and albino entry (numbers 4 and 5), but as they are actually the same as sp(3), they got merged several months ago.

It's not just Ancistrus that have sp(x), there are several other species that aren't well-known, and it's just a way to give them a name that is unique in the database. There are currently 9 different Ancistrus species that are "unknown".

Note that it's not for sure that there isn't a scientific name or L-number for a particular species. The sp(x) just means that it can't be identified to such by the data we have on the site.

--
Mats

Nieky · Post by **Nieky** » 05 Jan 2007, 17:40

MatsP wrote:Exactly like Kostas says: The number doesn't have any meaning whatsoever. There used to be a long-fin and albino entry (numbers 4 and 5), but as they are actually the same as sp(3), they got merged several months ago.

Missed the merging then...so forget my stupid remark

Bas Pels · Post by **Bas Pels** » 05 Jan 2007, 19:03

I do hope 1 thing:

There used to be a long-fin and albino entry (numbers 4 and 5), but as they are actually the same as sp(3), they got merged several months ago.

that as the numbers 4 and 5 habre been use previously, that any new ancistrus sp will be named 6, and not (to fill the ranks) 5

Because, 'Ancistrus sp 5 (on planetcatfish.com)' ideally refers to only 1 kind of fish

YouTube · Post by **Jools** » 29 Jan 2007, 20:34

Bas Pels wrote:Because, 'Ancistrus sp 5 (on planetcatfish.com)' ideally refers to only 1 kind of fish

At any given point in time, yes. Over time however, they can change...

Jools

Post by **Shane** » 30 Jan 2007, 17:49

What has become commonly known as Ancistrus sp 3 in the English speaking hobby is called Ancistrus sp. "brown" in the German hobby. It could just as easily be called Ancistrus sp. "bred in large numbers by Florida and SE Asian commercial breeders whose original point of capture (and thus any chance of correctly identifying it) has been lost to the annals of the hobby's history." But that would be a mouthful.
-Shane

apistomaster · Post by **apistomaster** » 30 Jan 2007, 21:03

How about this, Ancistrus ubiquitousus?