Ty mate. It has been considered & also the possibility it's a variant. I have 10 maccus & these two are not them imo. To look at the fish they are nothing like any L104 i've seen.
L206 was suggested but later discounted.
I wonder if Shane has caught or encountered this panaque ?
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That is a big one but not liposarcus i think. They don't get that big do they ?

Hello catfish people. I'm a newbie here but i belong to other catfish forums. Just like to say hi to all.
I am currently collecting plecos. I have :L168,s, L127's, l001, L104, L183's & albino bn,s.
Oh yeh, i'm an Aussie from Queensland the sunshine state.
So Hi all !!