if your going to be expanding beyond 8 or 10 tanks go to kensfish.com buy the av50 pump. I am currently running 14 sponge filters and have excess air to bubble eggs.it replaced 2 4 outlet pumps and a few 1 outlet pumps. low noise, lots of air. if you can buy the add on air regulator its great ...

look at the forums at aquabid.com they recently had shipping tips and techniques. If your shipping a pleco with bags you better double or triple bag it.

Hi
Dont give up on them, they are great little fish. I have to wonder if your getting your pandas from the same supplier
all the time. I have 1 reverse breeding trio in a 150 gal
tank,gravel bottom 72 degrees F have had this tank up to 82
degrees.1 breeding trio in 10 gal. bare bottom,76 degrees ...

contact your state fish and wildlife office they should be able to help you out.

Hi I recently moved 5 young pandas to a grow out tank and one of them did the same the others are fine. I had this happen once before. The other fish in the tank arent agressive. It almost looks like a weak area on the fish but Im just guessing. hope someone else can help.