Yep looking at the pics the spots are not very prominent on the lda074 through im sure could fade with age looks more like the l255 the more I look at it

Thanks again MatsP he is getting back to me with the catch location.
Marc these are different he had quite a few different Ancistrus in but these were marked as Unknown

This is some pics of one just to be 100% sure

Thank you MatsP.
I think I will give them a try

My local fish shop just had these in but came in as unknown wilds proberly difficult to i.d without a catch location but anyone have any ideas. many thanks http://i1269.photobucket.com/albums/jj584/markfamily1968/image_1366454768474104.jpg http://i1269.photobucket.com/albums/jj584/markfamily1968 ...

My local store just had some of these in this week and was hoping someone had a bit more info on them as there does not seem to be a lot of information out there on them.
Thank you for any help

I am trying to get hold of these very hard to find hoplo's wondering if anyone has any as there does not seem to be many registered owners so is it worth still looking or should I give up the hunt