MC, I apologize for not answering your one question...I am interested in breeding the longfin bristlenose for my own use and for resale... If you found my response to you rude in any way I apologize...it was not intended that way... I found your statement that I should research something before I ...

This thread has become pointless...I've gleaned all the useful information that I am going to... It has degenerated into a continuous "I'm right/you're wrong" type of arguement...no one is going to win this...and all I see is it turning down an even darker road...and I can see no end approcahing ...

MC wrote: Oh and one more thing, on Lake Victoria, please do a little more research before sprouting that the devastation caused to the fish populations was the hobbyists fault. I said that the hobbyist CONTRIBUTED to what has happened to the fish of Lake Victoria! I did NOT say it was completely ...

Magnum4 If you are going to quote me then make sure you read what I wrote before you use it and don't edit it to mean something else... The quote magnum4 used in reference to domestic strains of discus: If you look into it you will realize that Shane has his facts confused regarding wilds and ...

Thanks, Catfish Lover

You're right we posted at the same time and I didn't see yours! Thank you..that is exactly the kind of information I was looking for...and as for your other points I couldn't agree more!

What about temp?

James

Well said, Gino! While this has been informative and many good points have been made by all....it is far from where we started from... I would like ask that we get back to the original topic if we could...and focus less on the ethics of breeding "hybrid" fish... Since it's been so long since it has ...

oneoddfish, Thank you for clearing that up... I think that only the first part of the conversation was negative...it has now taken on a more amiable flavour...I still don't agree with many points made here, but that is the point right? magnum4 wrote: The time span maybe different however this is the ...

Of those 2500 species of catfish how many are suited to be kept by the average aquarist in the home aquarium???? How many other species of fish are there in the world???...more than anyone could ever even see in a lifetime...but again how many of those are suitable for life in the home aquarium ...

I was just trying to make the point that a lot of fish require special care/are harder to care for/breed/raise...I don't think that you can use the argument that it is a weaker fish...you may have to allow for it's "weakness" but there are many fish that require special care...so long as you provide ...

Jools, It's a tricky question...the eggs may be smaller, the young harder to raise and they may grow much more slowly...but I don't think that can be called a sign of weakness...it's obvious that they require special care and conditions compared to a regular bristlenose...but it's like comparing ...

I would have to side with, Catfish Lover on this one...while humans encroaching on wild habitats and pollution are much larger threats to wild fish(and all animals) than the aquarium trade is...I think that it is still a major reason as to why wild stocks are being depleted...just look at what has ...

Scelero Sounds to me like you came to the site with a closed mind and were surprised by the existence other people who hold another opinion to your own. I wasn't surprised to find out that other people have a different opinion to mine...I was surprised at the way it was given to me...that is all ...

I do apologize if it seemed that I was not open to having a discussion on this topic...I only ask that I not be lectured on something that I am merely researching....if someone would like to tell me why they think it is wrong to breed a fish for certain characteristics, I am open to that...as I ...

Well put, Jools... While I don't completely agree with you on all points I appreciate your contribution...and like I had said before...if I were to find out that the longfin trait affected the plecos health in any way I would take that into consideration...no one bothered to mention that before when ...

Right on, Alan...excellent post...excellent points...

I don't think it's against the rules to discuss aquarium strains and mutations...there are just some here that are pleco purists if you will...

James

Thank you, Gino...from what I have seen there are some very nice and helpful people on this forum...Barbie, Catfish Lover and yourself, are a few that have welcomed me and helped with my question (and defended me)...I'm sure there are many others... You need to sort through the trash to find the ...

Shane, I am confused by your contradictory response. You said, Don't be confused...my responses were not contradictory at all...you are confusing man-made and selective breeding...man did not genetically alter the genes of this pleco to give it the longfin trait...picture this...a long time ago, in ...

Thanks, Catfish Lover and Gino...this is the kind of help that I needed to breed these beautiful plecos!! I guess I'll have to get quite a few to turn out a decent amount of longfins...

What is the tank set-up that you used, Catfish Lover?...barebottom or is a substrate preferred?

First, I had never heard that the longfin bristlenose was a "man-made" fish.. Second, I did not intend this to be a place for you to voice your politcal statements on animal cruelty/breeding for specific traits... Please if you do not know the answer to what I am asking then say so or please don't ...

Is this hard to do?
What kind of water conditions, tank set-ups do they like?
They will be in their own tank so anything goes...

Thanks

Thanks, Dinyar I checked the PH and it is down to 6...I don't know why it dropped so low...my PH hasn't gone below 7.6 on any of my other tanks...including one that I dose with CO2 occasionally!... So the problem must be the PH....is there any danger to my other fish?...I'll try to get the PH back ...

Thanks, Silurus

any ideas on what to treat with??

Silurus,

Did you look at the second pic?...it's the one closest to the bottom of the page....NOT the first pic, that's a healthy cat...

Just want to make sure....I've seen those spots on other fish but never like the ones in my pic....

James

Does anyone know what these spots are on my Synodontis Eupterus???....they are on both sides and a few on the face...

Any help would be greatly appreciated.


James
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